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Wednesday November 7 2012
Juventus in need of a reaction

Juventus lost their unbeaten record on Saturday and, as Luca Cetta writes, they need to rediscover their hunger tonight against Nordsjaelland.

There was something in the air in the black and white half of Turin on Sunday. It was a sensation rarely felt since May 2011. Then it was another in a line of continual disappointments. This was more unexpected. After 49 Serie A games without tasting defeat, Juventus witnessed their run come to a screeching halt at the hands of bitter rivals Inter. Not since Parma’s 2-0 win in Week 37 of season 2010-11 had they placed a stroke in the L column. Nine games prior was the last home defeat, against Milan. Like a never-ending goods train Juventus chugged along undefeated.

Antonio Conte now faces a first in his Bianconeri stint – rebounding from a loss. They’ve lost before under the former captain, the Coppa Italia Final last term. But on that occasion they did not have to bounce back four days later. This loss dented their aura of invincibility, which Conte needs to drill into his players again. Perhaps he will turn to the mythical ‘bat of nails’ to gain the required reaction. It did wonders for joker in the pack Simone Pepe last season.

Short of greeting every player with a whack of the bat as they entered Vinovo after the loss, Conte would have reminded his squad at training that this season is no cruise, even for the deemed favourites. Recent performances – even if the right results were obtained – proved that. Saturday also proved that.

It followed the recent trend. Starting well, switching off then finishing with a late flurry. Perhaps after taking the lead Juventus expected to walk away with a win, after all it had occurred so many times during the past year. This was to be different. The Bianconeri were punished by a team in fine form who tactically out-thought the Turin giants. As they pushed at the death Juve were hit at the other end.

Captain Gianluigi Buffon felt Juventus were carefree. “I did not like our attitude after we went 1-0 up. I don’t understand why we sat there waiting for them outside our own box, we were far too carefree. In my view we could’ve dealt with the game differently, but after 15 minutes we just left the initiative to them.”

Not since the demolition of Roma have Juventus battered an opponent. Gone are the swashbuckling displays of 2011-12, replaced by in-part brilliance and individual moments. With the additions to the calendar it is to be expected the level of intensity will not remain at its peak constantly. And after the drop, it is up to Conte to remind the team only with hard work will they prevail.

Aside from the change in mentality, the visit of Nordsjaelland is a chance to alter personnel. Bring in players hungry to succeed, players with something to prove. Paul Pogba, Fabio Quagliarella and Mauricio Isla fit the bill. Another has been guaranteed a spot from the first whistle – Alessandro Matri will start in place of the injured Mirko Vucinic.

The Old Lady is aware anything less than a win over the Danes will signal the end of her Champions League campaign. This means snapping the European draw-a-thon. They must put Nordsjaelland to the sword, boosting confidence and qualification chances. Use anger of the weekend loss to spur them. Channel their inner-Conte and Juve will be on their way towards victory.

As Buffon indicated the run had to end at some point. In context of the Champions League, possibly it came at the right time as Juventus looks to rediscover their verve in a must-win circumstance. As far as Serie A is concerned, Juve remains first with the second best attack and equal-second best defence. One loss is not a disaster. They just need a reminder of what this Juventus is about.

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Have your say...
None of the top teams play 3 forwards and 3 against 4 or 5 in midfield especially with pirlo is to much ground to cover i have to disagree, inter had 3 strikers but as i said earlier one of them was dropping into midfield to make 5 and also to pressure pirlo
on the 8th November, 2012 at 4:44pm
@ Paul - r u sayin last season 433 performances were rubbish & we got torn apart? im not stating 352 doesnt work, it does, but not EVERY game! we need to be fluid, yes inter played with a back 3 at times, but they had 3! strikers pulling us out of pos all the time! & they were lucky not to be 3 nil down after 20 mins. Im all for any formation but to say 433 does not work bud is a push. we need to be like last season and if we do not press with intensity like las season no formation wil work!
on the 8th November, 2012 at 3:15pm
On another point manni inter played the same formation as juve they had 3 at the back don't tell me inter has a better back 3 than juve please don't go there inter played 352 but the 5th midfielder was a forward juventus don't have a forward to hold the ball up you play 3 midfielders in modern day football good luck with that because the forwards never put a shift in playing like that inter won because they had a better work ethic
on the 8th November, 2012 at 1:48pm
Its hard to get in behind the back 3 of juventus juventus back line is hardly ever turned facing their own goal the point you made is 433 playing with 3 in midfield you are out numbered by every formation the game is one and lost in midfield juventus would be crushed every time playing 433 you tell me who can hold the ball up in juve front line 3 of the four forwards want to run in behind.
on the 8th November, 2012 at 1:42pm
@ JuveFanatico - I hear you friend...Lewandowski is a good player and worth lookin at no doubt as to be honest no else is out there or available, Cavani is WAY over priced...the rest are beyond our reach for now..But hey with CL season after season and the gate receipts money from the stadium we should be competitive in 2 seasons id image aslong aslong as marrotta doesnt waste the clubs money on donkeys like Martinez!

Forza juve
on the 8th November, 2012 at 12:56pm
@Manni

You are completely right i don't disagree with you on any particular point. I just feel, in order to bring a great forward we need time, we have been dragged through mud over the last decade & that tarnished image is hard to overcome especially when every year they seem to look for ways to drag Juve into some new controversy. I also don't see quality out there at the moment i feel players like Mandžukic or Lewandowski are players we need to sign instead of looking for Aguero, Tevez etc.
on the 8th November, 2012 at 12:11pm
@ paul - whats ur point exactly? if u have a back line of 3! who dont have tooo much pace and push tooo far up and midfield get caught out then u are in trouble are you not? and yes IF juve press like they did last night and keep posession then they are fine but it doesnt always pan out like that and well lets not forget its was Nordsjaelland. Lets hope we learn from Athletico Madrid amd smash chelski to bits! but they have the LUCK of the english at the mo so its a tough one! Forza Juve
on the 8th November, 2012 at 11:42am
We needed a Juve reaction and we got one. I'd like to hear how Juve won this one with the ref's help...or do you Interisti et al. have your mouths full of sour lemons whilst watching us in the Champions League? Maybe we'll see you playing in that Mickey Mouse cup on Channel 5 some time...
FORZA JUVE!!! We've woken up in Europe - Chelsea are next and then Shaktar...6 points.
on the 8th November, 2012 at 11:27am
Who's fault is that if juventus don't keep possession or press ? Last night juventus played 352 and they pressed high up the pitch and played with tempo, if you get over run with five in midfield how on earth are you supposed to prevent this with 3 maybe if pirlo was more mobile it wouldn't happen it shouldn't happen with five pirlo should be screening in front
on the 8th November, 2012 at 11:23am
@ JuveFanatico - i see ur point, BUT! man u are not in that bracket only PSG, City and real, not even Barca, we have the money but have to be wiser and we were in Serie B a while back now, the model was 5 years, its been 5 years, we have won the title. last season was progressive the team and squad was built, this season improved strenth n depth the next phase HAS to be world class talent Proven talent 1 maybe 2 players to push us to that next level, Marrotta may be out of his depth though
on the 8th November, 2012 at 9:59am
@ Paul - 433 worked well for ur last season and one thing juve were not last season was predictible, we could switch up mid game to change tempo and style, we havnt done that this year, last thing you want is to be predictable, and Italy are not Juve my friend even though alot of our team is the national side, its not the same thing. 352 works well but not ALL the time, if we do not press, keep possesion or push up too high we are in trouble, Shaktar at home was the perfect example of this
on the 8th November, 2012 at 9:56am
@ Boss - Van persie is a good player and we maybe would have got him had the Conte ban not come around, BUT this is a player who is injury prone, out of 8 season at arsenal has had ONE! good goal scoring season, no impact in Europe either, at that age in his final year of contract he just wasnt worth it! only Fergie paid a crazy amount as he has nothing to lose as he will be retiring in a season or 2, not even City wanted to pay that much. Tevez is train reck waiting to happen, Suarez maybe..
on the 8th November, 2012 at 9:49am
juve need Milito.
on the 8th November, 2012 at 7:55am
Im not sure why we keep going back to the same subject of a world class striker. Players who fit the bill such as Cavani, Dzeko, Aguero and Van Persie either refused to come to Juve or other clubs offered more money. We simply can't compete financially with clubs like Man U. Man City, PSG, Real and Barca! Some people are talking about spending 30 to 40mil for one player. Just remember not long ago we were in Serie B and even less ago we were lingering in 7th place. Time is on our side though.
on the 7th November, 2012 at 11:55pm
433 you get crushed in midfield and the 3 forwards get no ball Italy played 4 in midfield against Spain in the final and got demolished played 5 in the group game and more than matched Spain 433 is a bad formation 3 forwards never works.tonight juventus played with more tempo than in previous games hence the more chances for the forwards.i think matri and quag is the best 2 if im honest and i would be tempted to put gio out on the right or left flank just to see if it suits him better,
on the 7th November, 2012 at 11:22pm
Juve came up with a great reaction tonight, although qualification is still not guarateed. This may just be the champions waking up!
on the 7th November, 2012 at 10:50pm
@mustuffa - have u banged your head again and suffered amnesia. i know it hurts your head to think, but in the summer juve were close to van persie. he is a damn good striker so don't come out with nonsense saying only Falcao and Cavani are good. u hav guys like tevez and suarez available, instead juve ignore that and go for bendtner. Italian teams r just tyt, they may as well go on tv and start asking for monthly donations of £1.00 a month like those RSPCA adverts
on the 7th November, 2012 at 10:25pm
@Onofrio: Sure thing, since Giac is a bit of everything but he's a battler and would help Marrone and Pogba a lot (especially since Pogba tends to go lazy when he doesn't see a challenge). I'm just trying to find as many options as possible, like I said, the starting 3 can't play all the time or else Juve's doctors will be busy. Again.
on the 7th November, 2012 at 5:43pm
@ Cile

Sorry, I didn't read your comment properly before where you mentioned Marrone!

Also Carrera had a better impact on the team than Alessio seems to be doing at the moment, the football was more intense and free flowing - perhaps they should revert back to him? Any how, looking forward very much to Conte's return, hopefully we'll still be in the CL by then... tonight is a must win.
on the 7th November, 2012 at 5:39pm
@ Cile

I hear what you're saying, but I'd have to say I'd use Marrone in midfield instead of Giaccherini!
on the 7th November, 2012 at 5:21pm
Also, Juve have more than 4 players capable of playing in the central midfield. Some rotation wouldn't hurt, Vidal and Marchisio aren't androids and Pirlo isn't really a spring chicken. Everyone's talking about Pogba and his huge potential and while he's good, he's not the only one. Giaccherini can play decent there but what I'm worried is the lack of chance given to Marrone, and when he does play, he does so at CB. Give him a real chance at CM and give the standard players a break!
on the 7th November, 2012 at 4:36pm
Juve need to return to the high tempo, pressing, possession football that they frequently exhibited last season. Even though they didn't thrash many teams, they controlled and dominated their opponents. Things haven't quite been the same of late. There has been a drop in intensity, and their possession/control has lowered. What can this be attributed to? Alessio, fatigue, complacency, loss of individual form...Hopefully that defeat will give them a kick up the backside. Good luck for tonight!
on the 7th November, 2012 at 4:34pm
Enough of Bendtner. Granted, he's not yet had enough time to prove himself at Juve but he's had more than enough time to prove his "usefulness" at Arsenal, where he's had more chances created directly for him to score (and he usually duly failed at that). If Conte and Alessio want a target man, play Matri, at least he knows how to find the net but Juve don't need a target man, they need 1 creative attacker and 1 goalscorer so in this case it's Giovinco/Vučinić and Quagliarella.
on the 7th November, 2012 at 4:31pm
These are the games where we need to scrap the 3-5-2 and go 4-3-3... I don't know who's fit or not but my XI for the upcoming match against the Danes would be

Buffon

Lichtsteiner
Barzagli
Chiellini
Asamoah

Vidal
Pirlo
Pogba

Giovinco
Bendtner
Vučinić
on the 7th November, 2012 at 4:11pm
Inter was an unfortunate blip.Hopefully this will spur us on ti more intensity and a higher tempo this was missing against Inter.People forget that in december when Antonio is back you will see more intensity.If only we had afinisher like Cavani we would stroll Serie A and the Champions League.
on the 7th November, 2012 at 4:04pm
@ Mustafa - agreed, said it all along Llorente isnt all that! has had the odd ok season in spain, serie A and CL is a diff cup of team all together. there are no players available out there non that come to mind or worth getting. IF! we had 30million plus then ideally benzema type. rue the day we didnt try harder for Aguero a diego Milito type player is a must and should be priority and the left side of the team!
on the 7th November, 2012 at 3:40pm
Eveybody screams for a world class striker! Ok,think for a second, WHO?

Lloriente? Ha, who says he is a world class in first place? Or you people just take newspapers crap! World class striker means a striker who scores and wins titles.
If that is the matter, then there would be many "top strikers" better than Lloriente. Take a look at Serie B, or heck take Di Natale on a one-year loan.

There is NO world class striker up for grab, except Cavani or Falcao.

I pray for a trezeguet type of player
on the 7th November, 2012 at 3:16pm
Rubentus or Ladrentus will not do any thing in champion league, they are not going to qualify in the second round. Chelsea and Shakhtor Donesk will qualify.
on the 7th November, 2012 at 2:57pm
Well said dear Mustafa, since Alessio took over Carrera the performances went from bad to worse! Don't know if it's his fault or just the players suddenly became crap but we need Conte urgently for the difficult coming spell.

Forza Juve!
on the 7th November, 2012 at 2:45pm
mustafa i truly agree with you alessio's performance has not been up to scratch we need conte ASAP
on the 7th November, 2012 at 1:39pm

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